Small CNC Bed Mill - MX200

Small CNC Bed Mill - AutoMate CNC MX200 - Right Side View with Operator
Small CNC Bed Mill - AutoMate CNC MX200 - Enclosed Work Table and 6000 RPM Servo Spindle
Small CNC Bed Mill - AutoMate CNC MX200 - Operator Station
Small CNC Bed Mill - AutoMate CNC MX200 - 36" Work Table with 4-Tool Table-Mounted Automatic Tool Change System
Small CNC Bed Mill - AutoMate CNC MX200 - Z Axis Servo Drive and Emergency Light
Small CNC Bed Mill - AutoMateCNC MX200 - Right Side View
Small CNC Bed Mill - AutoMateCNC MX200 - Cast Machine Stand with Adjustable Leveling Pads
Small CNC Bed Mill - AutoMateCNC MX200 - Electrical Control Panel and Servo Drives
Additional Options:
  • Advanced Siemens 808D Control
  • Rotary table w/ Siemens Servo Drive
Warranty:
- 1 year on the MX200 Mill Small CNC Bed Mill
- 3 years total (2+1) on Siemens 808D Control

 

Small CNC Bed Mill

MX200, 4 HP Servo Spindle

Built-In Quality - Production Grade Features
The MX200 Small CNC Bed Mill offers production grade CNC milling capabilities - in a small package. 
The MX200 Small CNC Bed Mill also has Premium Grade Components you would expect to find on a larger production mill.
Value priced - but with unmatched features.

Includes all these great features:
  • 1) Closed Loop System/Servos:  Industrial power level; precision and performance.
  • 2) Siemens 808D CNC Control: Industrial grade CNC control with conversational programming and on-screen help guide.
  • 3) 4 HP Servo Spindle Motor: High torque rise, even at low RPMs - constant torque throughout speed range.  Allows for rigid tapping and spindle positioning.
  • 4) Single Range, 50-6000 RPM Spindle:  Ramp up from lowest to highest speed with turn of a knob.  NO manual changing of belts or pulleys required,
  • 5) Extra Long 36" Work Table with Fully Supported Ball Screw:  21" of X axis travel.  Supported with bearings on both ends of the ball screw - unlike the competition
Order the Talon MX200 Bed Mill
And Get These FREE Bonus Items:
MX200 Small CNC Bed Mill: 
Siemens Control System (with Registration):
  • Additional 1 Year In-Field Warranty from Siemens USA
  • FREE Permanent Copy of Siemens 808D Simulator
  • FREE Access to Siemens USA Webinar Training Series
Fusion 360 CAD/CAM Program:
Price: $17,399.00
MX200 CNC Bed Mill
Built-In Production Grade Features:

The MX200 Small CNC Bed Mill has the same 6000 RPM servo-driven spindle as the higher priced MT300 PRO Milling Center.  The MX200 has built-in quality components and industrial features.  BUT, it is sized to fit in a small shop setting.

Includes an extended length 36" work table and 21” X axis travel. 

Easy operator access makes for quicker set-ups and tool changes. Built-in BT-30 pneumatic tool change system adds speed and operator ease.

Heavy castings and cast base help damp vibration. Provides a solid foundation for this small shop production grade machine.

Big results in a small shop package.  Used in home shops, education, prototyping, testing labs and production settings. 

AutoMate CNC production grade mills sell at very reasonable prices - clost to hobby machine prices.  BUT, this rugged CNC Bed Mill is built for industrial production - with features you'd expect on larger, more expensive machines.

Performance Details:
  • Siemens 808D CNC Control
  • Servo Motors/Drives on X/Y/Z
  • Closed Loop - Pro Accuracy
  • 4 HP Servo Spindle
  • 50-6000 RPM - Single Range
  • 350 IPM Feed Rate
  • 10" x 36" Work Table
  • 21" X Axis Travel
  • Pneumatic Tool Change System
  • BT30 Tool Holding System
  • Auto Lube and Coolant Control
  • Heavy Castings w/Cast Stand
Warranty Details:
  • 1 Year on MX200 Small CNC Bed Mill
  • 3 Years Total (2+1) on Siemens 808D Control
New Videos:
Small CNC Mill in Action: Short clips of our MX200 machining 316 stainless and 7075 aluminum using high speed tool path strategies. Using full tool diameter depth of cut, and lighter axial loads (10-15%) not only extends tool life, but results in a higher material removal rate.
MX200 Tool Change: Tool changing on the MX200 using the table mounted tool holding rack. Operations using up to four tools are possible.
MX200 Walk Around: Experienced AutoMate CNC technician walks around the MX200 and points out the features and benefits of this small tool room bed mill.
MX200 Comparison with Tormach PCNC 1100: Side-by-side comparison showing the differences in features and benefits between the MX200 CNC Bed Mill and the Tormach PCNC 1100.

MX200 - Small CNC Bed Mill - Features/Benefits

Milling Machine - Features/Benefits
Extra Long Work Table36” work table. Provides over 21” of X axis travel. Excellent for multiple set-ups. A little like having a small Bridgeport in your shop.
Fully Supported Precision Ball ScrewsGround P4 ball screw with anti-backlash double ball nut. Supported with bearings on both ends of the ball screw - unlike the competition. This prevents screw whip - increasing accuracy and extending service life.
Counter Weight Balanced Mill HeadHaving the counter weight balanced mill head reduces stress on Z axis motor and ball screw at higher RPMs. It increases accuracy and extends life of Z axis drive components. A counter balanced mill head will not crash in the event of control failure. More

Other machines on the market opt for the less expensive “Shock Absorber” option, which is prone to failure. The result being - the mill head still runs the risk of crashing in the event of a power or control system failure.
Precision Dovetail WaysPrecision hardened and ground ways are designed to withstand heavy use and still maintain accuracy. Fully adjustable gibs help keep the machine in top operating form - maximizing accuracy and assuring long service life.
BT-30 Tool Holding SystemIndustry standard CNC tool holding system - the other being the CAT system. We use the BT system because the tooling is cheaper than CAT. Customers have said they want quality tooling at value pricing.
Built-In Pneumatic Tool Change SystemTool changes are made with the push of a button. This built-in system is streamlined and fast - it’s ready to go when you get your machine.
Cast Stand with Coolant Tray And Table EnclosureSturdy stand has built-in coolant recycling tank. Extra room for storage. Chip tray and table enclosure helps contain coolant and chips - safety is fully assured.
Drive System - Features/Benefits
4 HP Servo Spindle DriveServo drive on spindle adds to speed and functionality -- more expensive, but much more accurate and functional than VFD spindle drives more commonly found on competitive CNC mills. Constant torque rise throughout speed range -- capable of rigid tapping and spindle alignment.
50-6000 RPM Spindle SpeedServo driven spindle can ramp up with constant torque from the lowest to highest speed in seconds. No need for the hassle and extra time required to change belts.
350 IPM Feed RatesFaster speeds equals higher production rates. The Siemens 808D industrial control and axis servo drive system provides the power and control that allows for higher speeds - more than twice the speed of competitive systems.
Safety/Operation - Features/Benefits
Automatic Lubrication SystemLubricates all wear points during machine operation at continuous time intervals. Benefits include reduced labor and material costs and significant extension of bearing life.
Programmable Coolant SystemControl coolant flow at the control panel using standard M-Codes. Proper placement and timing of coolant during machining operations reduces cost and increases machining efficiency. Also increases life of cutting tools.
Work LightFocused lighting elements increase operator efficiency and reduce fatigue. This light is flicker resistant, waterproof, and resistant to both cooling and lubricants. Impact and vibration resistant.
Alarm LightTurns on when control recognizes a machining error or machine malfunction. An operator standing away from the machine is visually alerted the activated alarm light when machining cycle is finished or machine errors out.
Siemens 808D CNC Control - Features/Benefits
Closed Loop SystemSystem directly monitors motor position and velocity in real time. The system then automatically makes corrections to assure correct tool positioning. High accuracy and maximum parts quality ensures a minimal rejection rate. Also assures smoother surface finishes.
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PC based systems on the market generally use an “open loop” system which is not capable of monitoring the drive system. An open loop system can’t make corrections in real time and is inherently less accurate than a closed loop system.
Siemens Servos and DrivesAchieves rapid acceleration and higher speeds - maintains high torque throughout speed range. Motor is highly efficient - it stays cool. Quiet at high speeds and stays vibration free during operation.
Ideal for CNC BeginnersIntuitive, easy to use conversational programming for on-screen file writing.  Ideal for entry level CNC users - innovative integrative startGUIDE from Siemens provides an on-line digital help function on every screen. Helpful instructions are available anytime - at a push of a button.
Simple & Intuitive InterfaceWell designed conversational programming functions and wizards, help streamline programming at the control panel. SINUMERIK Operate BASIC function is a standard features on all Siemens 808D controls.
Compact and RobustIndustrial panel design with hardened features is ideal for harsh environments. Small compact design matches smaller machines tools like the AutoMateCNC line.
USB Connector - Easily Handles Large FilesThis unique Siemens function allows for the streaming of large program files direct from a USB. Machining large program files is standard procedure for the Siemens 808D control.  Other CNC systems lack this robust level of functionality.
Built-In HelpsSeveral Siemens provided “assists” help streamline programming functions. One example would be Hot Keys. With the Hot Key function, machine operators can easily access commonly used screens using operator defined hot keys.
GENERAL SPECIFICATIONS - AUTOMATE CNC SMALL CNC MILLING MACHINES
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Model NameMX200 Small CNC Bed MillTRX550 PRO Small Vertical Machining CenterVMC425 Vertical Machining Center
Price$17,399$26,995$30,659
MILLING CAPACITIES
Spindle Nose to Table - Max18.5”19.5”20"
Spindle Nose - Min2.5”2.5”2"
Spindle Center to Column12”12”15"
Machine Repeatability.0004”.0002”.0002"
TRAVELS & FEED RATES
X Axis21”21.5”17"
Y Axis11.25”11”10"
Z Axis16”18”18"
X-Axis Rapids325 IPM600 IPM800 IPM
Y-Axis Rapids325 IPM600 IPM800 IPM
Z-Axis Rapids325 IPM600 IPM800 IPM
Max. Cutting Speed100 IPM315 IPM315 IPM
TABLE
Length36”41.25”28"
Width9.5”11”12"
T-Slot Width5/8”0.55” (14mm)5/8"
T-Slot Center Distance2.4”2.4”3.3"
Number of T-Slots333
Max Weight on Table350 Lbs350 Lbs550 Lbs
SPINDLE
Spindle Power4 HP4 HP7.5 HP
RPM Range50-600050-600050-8000
Drive SystemServo/Direct BeltServo/Direct BeltServo/Direct Belt
TaperBT30BT30BT30
TOOL CHANGER
TypeN/ACarouselCarousel
CapacityN/A1210
Max. Tool DiameterN/A4"4”
Max. Tool WeightN/A12 Lbs7 Lbs
WEIGHTS/DIMENSIONS/CAPACITIES
Machine Weight2150 Lbs2820 Lbs4800 Lbs
Machine Dimensions71” x 52” x 82”77” x 64” x 82”81" x 69" x 83"
Shipping Weight2310 Lbs3040 Lbs4620 Lbs
Air for Pneumatics90 PSI90 PSI90 PSI
Coolant Capacity3.75 Gal35 Gal35 Gal
Power (Standard)220V Three Phase Power220V 3 Phase Power220V 3 Phase Power
Amperage Required30 Amp30 Amp40 Amp
GENERAL SPECIFICATIONS (Metric) - MX200 SMALL CNC BED MILL
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Model NameMX200 Small CNC Bed MillTRX550 PRO Small Vertical Machining CenterVMC425 Vertical Machining Center
MILLING CAPACITIES
Spindle Nose to Table - Max470mm495mm500mm
Spindle Nose - Min64mm64mm50mm
Spindle Center to Column300mm300mm350mm
Machine Repeatability.01mm.007mm.005mm
TRAVELS & FEED RATES
X Axis530mm546mm425mm
Y Axis290mm280mm240mm
Z Axis410mm457mm450mm
X-Axis Rapids9m/m15m/m25m/m
Y-Axis Rapids9m/m15m/m25m/m
Z-Axis Rapids9m/m15m/m25m/m
Max. Cutting Speed2.5m/m8m/m25m/m
TABLE
Length900mm1047mm700mm
Width240mm279mm300mm
T-Slot Width16mm14mm16mm
T-Slot Center Distance60mm60mm85mm
Number of T-Slots333
Max Weight on Table160 Kg160 Kg250 Kg
SPINDLE
Spindle Power3.0 kW3.0 kW5.5 kW
RPM Range50-600050-600050-8000
Drive SystemServo/Direct BeltServo/Direct BeltServo/Direct Belt
TaperBT30BT30BT30
TOOL CHANGER
TypeN/ACarouselCarousel
CapacityN/A1210
Max. Tool DiameterN/A100mm100mm
Max. Tool WeightN/A5.5 Kg3 Kg
WEIGHTS/DIMENSIONS/CAPACITIES
Machine Weight900 Kg1280 Kg2181 Kg
Machine Dimensions140cm x 140cm x 200cm195cm x 162.5cm x 208cm205cm x 175cm x 210.5cm
Shipping Weight1000 Kg1480 Kg2100 Kg
Air for Pneumatics90 PSI90 PSI90 PSI
Coolant Capacity10 L132 L132L
Power (Standard)220V 3 Phase Power220V 3 Phase Power220V 3 Phase Power
Amperage Required30 Amp30 Amp40 Amp

Siemens Control

AutoMate and Siemens 808D
Small CNC Control Leadership
Detroit Machine Tools - AutoMate is leading the way in the development and support of the Siemens 808D CNC control matched with small industrial machine tools.
DMT has technicians and CNC programmers who are trained and proficient in operating the 808D control. DMT offers training classes and individualized training for AutoMate owners and Siemens 808D operators.
Experienced technicians are available to answer questions and offer technical support for your AutoMate machine with Siemens 808D control.
You can purchase an AutoMate CNC lathe or mill with confidence - knowing you will have the support of an organization with relevant depth and experience. DMT technicians are knowledgeable and commited to your machining success.
SINUMERIK 808D - INTRODUCTION
Features and Facts - Advantages of Siemens 808D
DOWNLOADABLE OFFLINE SIEMENS 808D SIMULATOR
Familiarize yourself with the 808D control.
Proof out existing part files.
Create programs away from the machine.
SIEMENS 808D - TRAINING CLASSES
Training Classes in Ann Arbor, MI


Siemens Webinars
SIEMENS 808D - TRAINING MANUALS
The Sinumerik 808D Programming and Operations Manual
3 YEAR WARRANTY - on the SINUMERIK 808D

AutoDesk Fusion 360 and AutoMate CNC

AutoDesk Fusion 360 and AutoMate CNC

Autodesk Fusion 360 provides the CAD/CAM program that best fits the AutoMate CNC line of CNC lathes and milling machines. And, Fusion 360 is the CAD/CAM program that best fits our customer requirements.

Fusion 360 is a cloud-based 3D CAD, CAM, and CAE platform for product development. It combines industrial and mechanical design, simulation, collaboration, and machining in a single package.

AutoMate CNC has custom post processors for Fusion 360 - From concept to parts production, machining program file management has never been easier!

Fusion 360 - Design

Free Form Sculpting

Within Fusion’s sculpting environment you have the ability to start with, and modify predefined primitive shapes right alongside mechanical workflow.

Apply symmetrical strategies and manipulate edges/faces to transform primitive designs into organic shapes that are not only eye pleasing but meet technical parameters as well.

Parametric Modeling

Fusion 360 gives designers, engineers, and machinists the ability to create designs that meet manufacturing criteria involving precise tolerances. This type of modeling lends itself well to part families that require slight variations to a specific feature, or designs that require iterations on a regular basis.

Parametric modeling is a structured process where users create designs/assemblies with constrained sketch(s). Edits are typically indirect and can be accessed through the history tree, or chain. Parts and assemblies have fully defined parent/child relationships.

Key Benefits of Parametric Modeling:

  • The model design is automatically updated as changes/iterations are made
  • It is easier to predict how models/assemblies will interact with parameters as changes are made within the data tree
  • Easy to define and create families of parts
  • Manufacturing processes are streamlined - resulting in decreased production time

Solid Modeling - Direct Modeling

Solid modeling is a more flexible design process that allows the part geometry itself to be the master in determining design process and flow. There are times, most often in the concept phase of a part design, when a designer/machinist does not want a fully defined part drawing. Direct modeling does not rely on a linear “parent/child” relationship. Editing to the design model is accomplished within the part geometry itself. Not on the part’s design history chain.

Key Benefits of Direct Modeling:

  • 3D designs are quickly created
  • Edits are quick with geometry changes directly on the model
  • Very flexible within the design stage
  • Short learning curve
  • Smaller file size

Libraries

Common hardware and CAD files can be directly imported into the modeling environment. With a few clicks of the mouse products from popular vendors can be added. Design details, like part number, quantity, and CAD data are automatically populated.

Fusion 360 - Design

Use Fusion 360 to create toolpaths for existing solid models, or models created directly within Fusion. Take advantage of the rapid prototyping environment with the built in 3D printing utility.

Post Processors: AutoMate CNC has already done the hard work - custom post processors for Fusion 360 are built-in. Having an intuitive, easy-to-use CAD/CAM program like Fusion 360 is a great help to the time-conscious machinist/programmer. With some practice and experience you will realize how much Fusion 360 can simplify your machine programming journey - from concept, to print, to finished part.

Good Match: Fusion 360 is a great match for AutoMate CNC machine tools. One strength of Fusion 360 is that it can take advantage of AutoMate CNC’s high spindle speed, AND, the machine’s high rapid feed rates, and cutting feed rates.

Efficient and Accurate Operations: Fusion 360 offers options for both 2D and 3D adaptive tool paths. These toolpath strategies generally have a higher material removal rate. They also assure longer tool life. Using Fusion 360 CAM to develop efficient machining programs offers the smoothest operation of your machine - improving efficiency and accuracy. AND, assuring easier operation and longer machine life.

MX200 - Small CNC Bed Mill - FAQ

The MX200 model is a real CNC machine? Does it have ball screws?

Yes, this model has C4 grade ball screws built-in on all three axes. This mill was developed in a coordinated effort between AutoMate CNC engineers and machinists, along with a respected CNC machine tool designer. As with all AutoMate CNC Milling Machines, the MX200 was built from the ground up – as a production grade CNC mill.

It says this CNC mill has servos. Is that true, even at this low price?

Yes, this mill has servo motors and drives on all three axes. The biggest advantage of servo drives over steppers is the degree of accuracy and repeatability that can be accomplished. 

Other advantages of servos include: Rapid acceleration and higher speeds  2) High torque throughout the speed range 3) High efficiency  4)  The ability to stay cool during long operations, and  5) Servos operate at very low noise levels – even at high speeds. Vibration free operation is one important reason for this.

PLUS, it has a closed loop control system?

Yes, this mill control is a closed loop system. A servo-driven closed loop system is significantly more accurate than steppers. A closed loop system sends commands from the control out to the machine and then completes the communication process by sending data back to the control system.  The CNC system updates the control as to where the machining process is at any given time. The system directly monitors motor position and velocity in real time.

The system then automatically makes corrections to assure correct tool positioning. This assures high accuracy and maximum parts quality. PLUS, it assures smoother finishes and a reduced reject rate.

It says this mill has a servo driven spindle, what’s the advantage?

Yes, this mill has a servo driven spindle, similar to the type of spindle drive motors used on larger CNC machine tools. A servo driven spindle provides much better torque, and assures constant torque rise throughout the speed range.  This high torque capability even includes milling operations at low RPM.

Servo motors with an encoder are able to continually identify the exact radial location of the spindle shaft. This makes the servo driven spindle capable of rigid tapping, a function that most machine operators will eventually find a need for. The servo also allows for spindle positioning – an important consideration when using live tooling.

What are the dimensions of this mill?

The MX200 Smal CNC Bed Mill measures: 71”W X 52”D X 82”H

Can the shielding and sheet metal be removed?

The shielding on the mill is there to provide a safer environment for the operator and to contain coolant and chips. Yes, the shielding can be removed, or modified to match your specific milling application.

Will it machine steel, titanium, stainless, etc.?

Yes, the MX200 will machine all these metals. An important consideration is the proper matching of cutting tool, depth of cut, feed rates, and spindle speed. Charts that show the recommended “feeds and speeds” are available and should be considered valuable source material. Experience is the greatest teacher – it is important to be a little cautious as you get started. In time, as you gain experience and knowledge, you will be able to improve your operating efficiency and the quality of your results.

So, this mill can rigid tap?

Yes, this mill can be easily programmed to do rigid tapping operations.

You say this mill can operate at 6000 RPM. Is that real, is it a “usable” 6000 RPMs?

Yes, because of the combination of quality spindle, servo drive and Siemens industrial control system, this mill will perform milling operations at a full speed of 6000 RPM. The servo driven spindle can be programmed to perform high torque operations at a low speed of 50 RPMs and then ramp up to full 6000 RPM – without any other required help or mechanical assistance by the operator.

Can this mill be used in production?

Yes, as we noted in early questions, this mill is built from the ground up for production work. All the AutoMate CNC milling machines will produce parts accurately and consistently for the life of the machine.

How does it compare to the MT300 PRO?

The MT300 PRO is built on a heavier cast base and has linear guideways for higher speed operations. The MT300 PRO also has a smaller table and “three-fourths“ enclosure for better containment of coolant and chips. The MT300 PRO also has an optional 12 tool automatic tool change system. Having the automatic tool change system, in this case, dramatically reduces the operator’s time and labor required for high volume manual tool changes. Also, automated tool change operations generally leads to reduced error rates and higher quality results.

How does the MX200 compare to “personal CNC’ mills?

The MX200 is designed and built to be a production grade mill, and includes premium grade components and features like servo motors, an industrial control system with easy to use conversational programming and heavy castings for industrial grade damping.  Most personal CNC milling systems feature lower cost, but less accurate steppers and hobbyist grade PC based control systems.   Machine components are lighter duty.  In general, personal CNC mills are lighter duty - requiring the operator to take lighter cuts and operate at significantly slower speed.

Can I set this up myself? Do I need a rigger?

If you have a forklift that has sufficient fork length and load capacity, in addtion to a safety minded and well-trained operator, you should be able to safely remove the mill from the truckand place it at its intended operating location. Some customers rent fork lifts and/or operaters to perform the task. 

This mill comes fully assembled and mounted on the stand.  This makes it inherently top heavy.  Use caution and good sense while moving this machine.

Basic instructions for setting up the mill are included in the operations manual. Of course, you can always call us with questions you may have.

What’s the warranty? How does it work?

AutoMate CNC mills have a one year parts replacement warranty. AutoMate CNC will send you the proper replacements parts for parts that prove to be defective.

The Siemens 808D control has a (2 +1) three year “in-field” warranty that is supported by Siemens USA.

How about service, can I do it myself? What if I need technical support?

The expectation is that customers who purchase a CNC machine tool will have adequate mechanical and electrical know-how to handle service questions as they arise. Naturally, you can call and talk to an AutoMate CNC technician with questions you have.

If you need technical support beyond telephone, on-line or email support provided by AutoMate CNC technicians, we can help you find a local technician that is willing to travel to your location to provide assistance at your expense. We may already know of a technician in your area that we have worked with previously.

This mill uses three phase power. Why? Is there an advantage?

The simple answer is that larger horse power machines operate more efficiently when using three phase power.

The advantage of three phase power is that your machines will last longer and operate with higher energy efficiency. Three phase power does not use more electricity than machines using single phase power. This also applies when using a phase converter – The average 10 HP phase converter runs on around 7 cents per hour of electricity.

I don’t have three phase power in my shop, what am I going to do?

The best solution is to use a rotary phase converter, which plugs into a standard 220V plug and converts power from the wall into the three phase power used by the machine.

If you do not have a phase converter yourself, you can purchase a high quality American made phase converter from us at a discounted price.

This is a simple plug and perform solution for the small shop operator. Watch this video to learn more about setting up and using a phase converter:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJjCQqtEdFU

This video clip shows the Marton Brothers using phase converters to set up their new machine shop.

Siemens 808D CNC Control

Is the Siemens 808D is a real industrial control?

The Siemens 808D is a fully functioning, industrial grade CNC control system that uses software based on the same software used in Siemens' larger industrial control systems. The difference is that the 808D is designed to be used on smaller machines

Machine tools with real production capabilities like AutoMate CNC lathes and mills, are best matched with a control system that has the power and functionality to do real production work  The Siemens 808D CNC Control System really fits the bill as a great CNC Control partner for AutoMate CNC machines. 

All AutoMateCNC machines come standard with the Siemens 808D Basic control, which can be upgraded upon request. Other control options include the Siemens 808D Advanced and Siemens 828D controls. Those that prefer using a Fanuc system can order any of our lathes or mills with a Fanuc Oi Mate TD CNC Control.

I heard that AutoMate CNC machines have servos. Is that true, even at this low price?

Yes, all AutoMate CNC lathes and mills use servo motors and drives on all axes. The biggest advantage of servo motors and drives over steppers is the degree of accuracy and repeatability that can be accomplished. 

Other advantages of servos include: 1)  Rapid acceleration and higher speeds  2)  High torque throughout the speed range 3) High efficiency  4)  Servos stay cool during long operations  5) Servos operate at very low noise levels – even at high speeds. Vibration free operation is one important reason for this.

PLUS, it has a closed loop control system?

Yes, this CNC control is a closed loop system. A servo-driven closed loop system is significantly more accurate than steppers. A closed loop system sends commands from the control out to the machine and then completes the communication process by sending data back that updates the control as to where the machining process is at any given time. 

The system directly monitors motor position and velocity in real time. The system then automatically makes corrections to assure correct tool positioning. This assures high accuracy and maximum parts quality.  PLUS, it assures smoother finishes and a reduced part rejection rate.

Does the control have conversational programming?

Yes, you can program standing at the control panel using fill-in-the-blank style forms. Each form has a graphic demonstration of the machining process you are programming. The control interface features include standard programming patterns like bolt hole circles, linear rays, full-contour definition, peck drilling, tapping, etc.

Do AutoMate CNC lathes and mills have a servo driven spindle? What’s the advantage?

Yes, the majority of AutoMate CNC machines have a servo driven spindle, similar to the type of spindle drive motors used on larger CNC machine tools. A servo driven spindle provides much better torque, and assures constant torque throughout the speed range, even at low RPM. 

Servo motors with an encoder are able to continually identify the exact radial location of the spindle shaft. This makes the servo driven spindle capable of rigid tapping, a function that most machine operators will eventually find a need for. The servo also allows for spindle positioning – an important consideration when using live tooling.

So, this lathe can rigid tap?

Yes, AutoMateCNC lathes and mills can be programmed to do rigid tapping operations.

Does the Siemens 808D handle larger programs well?

Siemens has a unique function that allows for the streaming of large program files direct from a USB. Large files are no longer a concern - other CNC systems lack this robust level of functionality.

Will this CNC Control work with my CAD-CAM system?

Yes, the Siemens 808D control has post processors for all CAD-CAM systems. If you are having a problem we will work with Siemens USA to resolve the issue.

What about training?

When you purchase an AutoMateCNC lathe or mill you receive free tuition (Value $299) to attend a day long basic programming and machine set-up class that we hold at our location in Ann Arbor, MI. Siemens USA also has many training webinars on their website.

I noticed that Siemens has a simulator for the 808C control. Is this helpful?

Yes, definitely. You should take the time to download the FREE Siemens 808D simulator on your computer. Spend some time getting to know the control system. Only with a little experience will you be able to see that the Siemens 808D control is as powerful and easy to use as other industrial CNC control systems on the market. And, it's conversational programming capabilities are as easy to easy, and with broader function than conversational programming on other industrial or personal CNC controls that are available.

Many customers continue to use the simulator, even after they have their machine set up and making parts.  They use the simulator to develop machining programs while at their computer, rather than at the control panel. Once programs have been written and tested they can be easily transferred to the machine control via USB drive.

Machine Shipping

Machine Shipping Information

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- Basic Shipping Info -

AutoMate CNC machines are large. bulky and can weigh up to 5000 lbs. The potential for damage to a machine or injury to shipping personnel or bystanders is significant. These machines require special attention throughout the transportation process.

Four Methods of CNC Machine Shipping Include:

1) Basic Truck Freight Delivery - Foam Protected and Wrapped Machine
2) Basic Truck Freight Delivery – Wooden Crate Protected Machine
3) Advanced Truck Freight Delivery – Separated Divider w/ Non-Stop Delivery
4) Flat Bed Truck Delivery – Direct delivery of protected and tarped machine

**All Trucks Used by AutoMate CNC to Deliver CNC Machines are Equipped with Air Ride Suspension Systems. We want to be sure your machine has as smooth a ride as possible.

**AutoMate CNC Recommended Machine Delivery Method: Our recommendation is that each customer use the Advanced Truck Freight Delivery – Separated Divider w/ Non-Stop Delivery for shipping of machines they purchase. This method is a little more expensive, but we can, and will provide assurance that the CNC machine will be delivered safely and without damage.

Customers who decide to use Basic Truck Freight Delivery can expect to receive their machine safely, but it requires more vigilance and responsibility on the part of the customer who is receiving the machine.

Determining Machine Weight and Dimensions:

Determining crated machine weight and dimensions is complicated. A number of factors go into this equation. Please allow us to help you determine the machine and shipping combination that work best for you. To get started, fill out the quote form on the website, and we’ll get back to you with a machine and shipping quote. Or, call us at 800.476.4849 – an Automate CNC technician would be happy to answer your questions.

- Fork Lift Requirements -

Fork Length:

In our warehouse operations we use forklifts with 6000 lb. lift capacity and 6’ forks. Six foot forks can be used safely with all of the AutoMate CNC Lathes and Mills, except the FTL400 Lathe. We have a set of extension we add to the 6’ forks for this lathe.

Max Lift Capacity:

The first step is to determine the weight of the crated CNC machine you are receiving from the machine specifications page. Next, check the stated lift capacity of the fork truck you intend to use. The lifting capacity of this machine must be greater than the weight of the machine you are purchasing. 

Machine Delivery Options:

You may prefer to use professional shippers and riggers to receive and set up your machine. Many larger organizations and government agencies are required to use a trained and registered machine tool rigger/mill wright.

Other Options:

If you do not have experience handling this size and type of machine we welcome a discussion about delivery options with you. Call us at 1-800-476-4849 and speak with one of our representatives to discuss the logistical solution best suited for you.

- International Shipping -

Shipping to Canada

We use a variety of transport companies for Canadian shipments. We do this to ensure you the best possible rates when going across the border. There are two different options you can consider for handling customs paperwork, duties and taxes going into Canada.

The first option is to act as your own servicing agent. We will sell you the machine, and contacting a broker and handling customs duties, taxes and fees is up to you.

The second option includes an all-inclusive package where we take care of everything for you. Your job will be to prepare to receive the machine when delivered.

Shipping to Other International Locations

For international shipments of AutoMate CNC lathes and mills we use Mid-America Overseas as our broker. We will quote and ship to the port nearest you. Forwarding of the machine from the port to your door will be your responsibility. Please provide valid contact information and a ship-to address when requesting a quote for shipment to a location outside the US and Canada.


Four Methods of Machine Delivery - Options

1. Basic Truck Freight Delivery – Foam Protected and Wrapped Machine

In general, AutoMate CNC Lathe and Mills are small enough to fit into standard sized freight trucks. Also, the weight of most machines is less than the maximum 5000 weight of an individual delivered item, as stated by most truck freight companies.

We have delivered tens of thousands of machine tools by truck freight through the years. So we know it can be done safely. We also know that the size and weight of these CNC machines brings additional risk of damage to package and/or person.

Loading Dock or Direct From Truck: The first consideration for Truck Freight delivery is availability of dock. The easiest way to unload a CNC machine direct from a common freight truck by using a loading dock with adjustable dock plate.

If you do not have a loading dock you can still receive a machine via truck freight delivery. In this case you must arrange with the AutoMate CNC technician to have the machine placed on the back of the truck for delivery. A forklift can drive up to the truck on the ground and lift the machine out of the back of the truck.

Fork Truck Requirements: (See Details Above).

If you're unsure of your personnel or fork lift's capabilities, please contact a local rigger for assistance.

Receiving the Machine: Prior to receiving your machine you will receive an email from with us with instructions and pictures of the machine just before it is loaded on the truck to leave our warehouse.

When the machine arrives you should compare these emailed pictures to the look of the machine packaging when it arrives. You must note any damage to the lathe or mill on the bill of lading before the trucker leaves in order to be able to hold the trucking company liable for damage before it arrives at your location.

It is similar to doing a walk around of a rental car before you sign to accept it. You must note any damage to the machine on the truck company’s bill of lading before signing for acceptance. It will be assumed that any damage that is noted to the machine at a later date will have happened after the machine arrived at your location.

2. Basic Truck Freight Delivery – Wooden Crate Protected Machine

There is a way to deliver a CNC machine by truck freight that entails less risk. A second option that carries greater assurance of safe delivery is to build a wooden cross-member crate around the machine before it ships. We charge $300-500 to build a crate around the CNC machine and pallet.

The terms of delivery for a machine with crate are the same as for a CNC machine that is foamed and wrapped. Be sure to read the section just above, to learn about shipping a CNC machine by Truck Frieght.

Receiving a CNC Lathe with Wooden Crate: The procedure for receiving a machine with crate is the same as if you had shipped the machine without a crate.

You will receive pictures of your machine as it sits in its crate on the delivery dock before leaving our location. You should compare the machine you receive with the pictures. It’s a good idea to take pictures of the machine as you receive it.

Any damage to the machine or crate must be noted on the trucker’s bill of lading before he leaves your location. It is assumed that any damage to the machine noticed after the machine is delivered to your location will have occurred after the machine was delivered.

3. Advanced Truck Freight Delivery – Separated Divider w/ Non-Stop Delivery

To assure safe delivery of your CNC machine, while still relying on standard Truck Freight Delivery, the best way to have your machine delivered is with “Separated Divider”. This shipping method is more expensive, but we can provide the assurance that your machine will arrive without damage.

Process of Shipping with Separated Divider: The actual process of preparing and shipping a CNC machine by this method is straight forward. We will negotiate a delivery quote from our shipping Company, ESTES TRUCKING for your machine delivery. Should you accept this delivery method we will prepare the machine for shipment with standard foam and plastic wrap protection.

Delivery of Separated Divider Shipment: When the machine is loaded on the truck at our location it will be placed in the front of the trailer, just behind the cab. After strapping the machine down the driver will place a set of metal bars – the secure divider system – between the two walls of the trailer.

No other freight will be able to make contact with your machine. Your machine will not be moved to another truck before it arrives at your location. It will be a direct shipment from our location to yours. It’s a bit expensive, but you can rest assured your machine will arrive safe and ready to go to work.

4. Flat Bed Delivery

Flat bed delivery makes the most sense when you don’t have a truck loading dock. Many of our customers in rural locations opt for delivery by flatbed truck.

Fork Lift and Unloading Area: The rules for having an adequate fork lift stated above in the Truck Freight Delivery apply for flatbed truck also. Be sure to read the section about fork truck requirements.

Fork Truck Rental: It is common for customers who don’t have a forklift to arrange for rental of a forklift on the day the machine will be delivered. Let us know if you need assistance in renting a forklift and driver, if you don’t have experience.

To receive a delivery by flatbed truck your location must be accessible by the truck and trailer tandem. The driver must have a path to drive through or turn around in while at your location. There must also be room for the fork truck to move in from the side of the trailer to lift and remove the machine tool.

One other note of caution: The ground must be hard enough to handle the weight of fork truck and machine. Soft dirt or gravel are not an adequate foundation for moving a machine tool and delivery vehicle.

Receiving/Inspection: The CNC machine will be covered by a tarp while it is traveling. The machine is well protected using this type of delivery, so you should not expect to have damage to your machine.

However, it is still the responsibility of the person receiving the machine to fully and carefully inspect the machine for damage. Any damage should be noted on the bill of lading before accepting the machine as being delivered.

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