CNC Turret Lathe

CNC Turret Lathe - Flat Bed CNC Turning Center - FL300-II with indexable turret
CNC Turret Lathe - Flat Bed CNC Turning Center - FL300-II with indexable turret - right view
CNC Turret Lathe - Flat Bed CNC Turning Center - FL300-II gang table and spindle
CNC Turret Lathe - Flat Bed CNC Turning Center - FL300-II end view of work table
CNC Turret Lathe - Flat Bed CNC Turning Center - FL300-II with gang tooling
CNC Turret Lathe - Flat Bed CNC Turning Center - FL300-II engagement interface
CNC Turret Lathe - Flat Bed CNC Turning Center - FL300-II spindle end view
CNC Turret Lathe - Flat Bed CNC Turning Center - FL300-II spindle bore and coolant collection
CNC Turret Lathe - Flat Bed CNC Turning Center - FL300-II Siemens interface with USB port
Additional Options:
  • · Hydraulic 6" 3-Jaw Chuck $3,950
  • · 5000 RPM (NSK Bearings) $2,200
  • · Siemens 808D Advanced $2,600
Warranty:
- 18 months on the FL300-II
- 3 years on the Siemens 808D Control

CNC Turret Lathe - Flat Bed Turning Center

FL300-II 5 HP Servo Spindle

8-Station Turret with Extended Length Gang Table
Add a turret to the highly popular FL-300 - and it becomes the FL300-II. This CNC turret lathe - flat Bed CNC turning center also has FL300's extended length work table (with 14” of X axis travel) and 1000 IPM fast rapids.
The turrett on this FL300-II CNC turret lathe is the same high-quality, bi-directional indexable 8-tool turret found on the other AutoMate CNC Turning Centers.
The first advantage of the FL300-II CNC turret lathe - flat bed turning center is price - It is the lowest priced production CNC Turning Center on the market.  
This compact, CNC Turret Lathe packs a load of capacity into a small foot print. In addition to having a quality bi-directional indexing turret you will have an extra-long gang tool work table with 14" of cross-feed travel. This provides the capacity to mount and position a large number of separate tools – in addition to the tools you mount in the 8-Tool Turret. Also works well for applications that require live tooling.
Order the FL300-II CNC Turning Center
And Get These FREE Bonus Items:
FL300-II Turret Lathe Machine: 
Siemens Control System (with Registration):
  • Additional 1 Year In-Field Warranty from Siemens USA
  • FREE Permanent Copy of Siemens 808D Simulator
  • FREE Access to Siemens USA Webinar Training Series
Fusion 360 CAD/CAM Program:
Price: $23,459.00
FL300-II CNC Lathe
Production Grade Flat Bed CNC Turning Center
8-Tool Turret - Long Work Table w/ Gang Plate

The FL300-II adds to the already impressive list of features on the FL300 series by adding a precision 8-Station turret. This flat bed CNC turret lathe allows for a higher level of turning operations - while maintaining the value pricing, speed and production capacity that the FL line is known for. 

The precision turret, along with the extra long table and 14" X axis travel allows for an even greater amount of tooling capacity. Rapid feed rates of up to 1000 IPM are possible with world-class quality ball screws and linear ways.

A pneumatic collet system with foot actuator, ergonomic control, and digital handwheel are a few of the features that make this low-cost gang tool lathe one of the best deals for volume production CNC lathes.

Designed for low cost and volume production applications, this lathe is also used widely in education, machine shops, home shops and second operation settings.

Performance Details:
  • Siemens 808D CNC Control
  • Servo Motors and Drives on X/Z
  • Closed Loop System
  • Pneumatic Collet System
  • 8-Tool Indexable Turret
  • Extra Long Work Table w/ Gang Plate
  • 14" Cross-Feed Travel
  • 50-3000 Spindle RPM
  • 5 HP Servo Spindle
  • Travel: X = 12”/Z = 16”
  • Feed Rate: X=1000 IPM / Z=600 IPM
  • Efficient Ergonomic Design
Warranty Details:
  • 18 months on the FL300-II
  • 3 years on the Siemens 808D Control
New Videos:
FL300 Customer Spotlight: Advanced Battery Concepts uses their FL300 gang tool lathe to produce custom mounting hardware. The addition of this high speed CNC lathe is helping them keep under budget and ahead of schedule.
FL300-II Walkaround: Have a look at the newest AutoMate CNC turning center.  This high capacity flat bed lathe with turret has maximum tool holding capacity and production capabilities.
 
Bar Feeder Installation:  Production capacity on this high capacity lathe can be increased even more with the addition of an optional automatic bar feeder.  Watch this video to learn about how to install the AutoMate CNC bar feeder.

FL300-II Flat Bed CNC Turning Center - Features/Benefits

Lathe Machine - Features/Benefits
Extra Large Table and Long X AxisLarge work table and a long X axis stroke allows for the mounting and efficient operation of a large number of tools. Provides more flexibility and variation in tooling and turning set-ups.  Live tooling options available.
Heavy Castings with Cast BaseCompact, rigid machine design  - weighing over 2600 lbs. High weight-to-work cube ratio assures high rigidity, even when taking heavy cuts.
Full EnclosureMachine is completely enclosed with a sliding front access door and easy access panels on the tailstock end and machine back side. Coolant and chips are enclosed and properly recycled. Electromagnetic lock keeps operator safe.
1.46” Spindle BoreEasy access for standard pneumatic collet system. Optional hydrualic system, and collet system available. Adaptable for an automatic bar feeder, and live tooling.
Precision 8-Station Turret - With Bi-Directional IndexingWorld-class quality Pragati turret is precision machined and manufactured. Superior quality control is practiced throughtout the production and testing of each turret. Bi-directional tool change capability also adds speed and efficiency to tool changes. An additional advantage of turret lathes, considered by many, is that they tend to be easier and more logical to program, especially when cutting complex parts.
Pneumatic Collet Closer with Auxillary Start Button, Foot Actuator or at the control.Collet system is air actuated with auxiliary start button - within easy reach of operator.  Improves efficiency and safety for the operator.
Tool Box and ToolsA set of the basic tools required for maintenance are included with this late. Gives you what you need to get up and running and for routine maintenance.
Foundation PadsHeavy machined leveling pads that adjust the height to keep your machine aligned and balanced. Solid multi-point contact with shop floor reduces vibration and increases accuracy.
Drive System - Features/Benefits
4 HP Spindle DrivePlenty of power to match the machine’s capacity. Capable of rigid tapping and spindle positioning.
50-3000 Spindle Speed RangeInfinitely variable speed ranges, from 50 to 3000 RPMs. No need for changing gears or belts.
Schneider Electrical ComponentsOne reason we can offer an 18 month machine warranty is because of the recognized quality, and reliabilty of Schneider Electrical components. Highest reliability rating - highy efficient design reduces power usage.
High Quality Hiwin Linear Guideways w/Telescoping CoversWorld-class standard linear motion guideways come standard on the FL300. Stainless steel telescoping guards provide maximum protection of guideways from chips and coolant.
PMI Ball ScrewsPMI ball screws efficiently transmit rotary motion to linear motion - allowing for high speed, and highly accurate axis movements. Accurate ball circle diameters throughout length of ball screw assures consistent drag torque and low noise.
Feed Rates of 600 on X and Y AxesFaster speeds equals higher production rates. The Siemens industrial control, axis servo drive system and linear ways provide the power and control needed for higher speeds.  The FL300-II rapid and feed rates are many times faster then competitive CNC lathe systems.
Safety/Operation - Features/Benefits
Ergonomic Control Panel and Operator InterfaceMachine control panel adjusts and rotates up to 90 degrees. High tactile buttons, manual pulse generator, and convenient cycle start buttons improve operator convenience, efficiency, and safety.
Auxiliary Cycle StartEasy access buttons allow operator to operate pneumatic or hydraulic chuck with the push of a button. Having a second E-Stop within easy reach also adds to the safety features of this lathe.
Manual Pulse GeneratorHandheld pendant that allows operator to be independent from the main control panel. The rotating knob generates pulses that are sent to the machine control, allowing the operator to move the lathe a predetermined distance with each click of the knob detent.
Automatic Lubrication SystemLubricates all wear points during machine operation at continuous time intervals. Benefits include reduced labor and material costs, and significant extension of bearing life.
Programmable Coolant SystemControl coolant at the control panel using standard M-Codes. Cycle times can be significantly reduced, while feed and cutting speeds can be significantly increased. Proper cooling extends life of cutting tools.
Work LightFocused lighting elements increase operator efficiency and reduce fatigue. This light is flicker resistant - also waterproof, resistant to cooling and lubricants. Impact and vibration resistant.
Tri-Color Alarm LightGreen light turns red when control alarm recognizes a machining error, or machine malfunction. An operator standing away from the machine is visually alerted by the activated alarm light when machining cycle is finished or machine errors out.
Siemens 808D CNC Control - Features/Benefits
Closed Loop SystemSystem directly monitors motor position and velocity in real time. The system then automatically makes corrections to assure correct tool positioning. High accuracy and maximum parts quality ensures a minimal rejection rate. Also assures smoother surface finishes.
Siemens Servos and DrivesAchieves rapid acceleration and higher speeds - maintains high torque throughout speed range. Motor is highly efficient - and it stays cool. Quiet at high speeds and vibration free operation.
Ideal for CNC BeginnersIdeal for entry level CNC users.  The innovative, integrative start-GUIDE from Siemens provides an on-line digital help function on every screen. Helpful instructions are available anytime - at a push of a button.
Simple & Intuitive InterfaceWell designed conversational programming functions and Wizards from Siemens help streamline programming at the control panel. All Siemens 808D controls come standard with this SINUMERIK Operate BASIC functionality.
Compact and RobustIndustrial panel design with hardened features is ideal for harsh environments. Small compact design matches smaller machines tools like the AutoMate CNC line.
USB Connector - Easily Handles Large FilesThis unique Siemens function allows for streaming of large program files direct from a USB.  Machining large program files can be accomplished with the Siemens 808D.  Other CNC systems lack this robust level of functionality.
Built-In HelpsSeveral Siemens provided “assists” help streamline programming functions. One example would be Hot Keys. With the Hot Key function, machine operators can easily access commonly used screens using operator defined hot keys.
GENERAL SPECIFICATIONS - AUTOMATE CNC TURNING CENTERS
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Model NameFL300-II  Flat Bed Turning CenterFTL320 Flat Bed w/ TailstockSL6 Slant Bed Turning CenterSTL6 Slant Bed Turning Center w/ Tailstock
Price$23,459$24,699$25,995$31,989
TURNING CAPACITIES
Max. Swing Over Bed17.5”18"15.75"17”
Max. Swing Over Carriage5.25”6.5"7.85"8.5”
Max. Length of Workpiece7”20"11.8"9”
Machine Repeatability.0002”.0002".0002".0002”
TRAVELS & FEED RATES
X Axis14”7.5"11.75"11.75”
Z Axis12”13.5"14"17”
X-Axis Rapids950 IPM984 IPM800 IPM750 IPM
Z-Axis Rapids950 IPM400 IPM800 IPM800 IPM
Max. Cutting Speed315 IPM315 IPM315 IPM315 IPM
SPINDLE
Spindle Power4 HP7.37 HP7.5 HP5 HP (7 HP Optional)
RPM Range50-300050-300050-300050-3000 (5000 Optional)
Spindle Bore1.46”1.89"1.89"1.89”
Spindle Nose TaperA2-4A2-5A2-5A2-5
Chuck TypePneumatic Chuck6" Manual 3-Jaw Chuck6" Manual 3-Jaw Chuck6” Manual 3-Jaw Chuck (Hydraulic Chuck Optional)
WEIGHT/DIMENSIONS/CAPACITIES
Machine Weight4220 Lbs4720 Lbs4800 Lbs5500 Lbs
Machine Dimensions80” x 58” x 67.5”82" x 60" x 68"86.5" x 63" x 72"87” x 64” x 72”
Shipping Weight4600 Lbs5120 Lbs5220 Lbs5960 Lbs
Air for Pneumatics90 PSIN/A90 PSI90 PSI
Coolant Capacity11 Gal11 Gal25 Gal21 Gal
Hydraulic Capacity11 GalN/A18.5 Gal18.5 Gal
Power (Standard)220V 3 Phase Power220V 3 Phase Power220V 3 Phase Power220V 3 Phase Power
Amperage Requirements20 Amp30 Amp35 Amp29 Amp
GENERAL SPECIFICATIONS (Metric) - AUTOMATE CNC TURNING CENTERS
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Model NameFL300-II Flat Bed Turning CenterFTL320 Flat Bed w/ TailstockSL6 Slant Bed Turning CenterSTL6  Slant Bed Turning Center w/ Tailstock
TURNING CAPACITIES
Max. Swing Over Bed444mm457mm400mm430mm
Max. Swing Over Carriage133mm165mm200mm215mm
Max Length of Workpiece180mm177mm300mm320mm
Machine Repeatability.005mm.003mm.005mm.005mm
TRAVELS & FEED RATES
X Axis350mm190mm300mm300mm
Z Axis300mm343mm355mm430mm
X-Axis Rapids26m/m25m/m20m/m18m/m
Z-Axis Rapids26m/m10m/m20m/m20m/m
Max. Cutting Speed8000mm/m8000mm/m8000mm/m8000mm/m
SPINDLE
Spindle Power3.0kW5.5 KW5.5 kW3.7 kW (5.5 kW Optional)
RPM Range50-300050-300050-300050-3000 (5000 Optional)
Spindle Bore37mm48mm48mm48mm
Spindle Nose TaperA2-4A2-5A2-5A2-5
Chuck TypePneumatic Chuck160mm Manual 3-Jaw ChuckHydraulic 3-Jaw Chuck160mm Manual 3-Jaw Chuck (Hydraulic Chuck Optional)
WEIGHT/DIMENSIONS/CAPACITIES
Machine Weight1800 Kg2145 Kg2181 Kg2500 Kg
Machine Dimensions203cm x 147cm x 170cm208cm x 152cm x 172cm219cm x 160cm x 182cm221cm x 162cm x 182cm
Shipping Weight2020 Kg2290 Kg2450 Kg2700 Kg
Air for Pneumatics620 KpAN/A620 kPa620 kPa
Coolant Capacity50 L50 L80 L80 L
Hydraulic Capacity40 LN/A70 L70 L
Power (Standard)220V 3 Phase Power220V 3 Phase Power220V 3 Phase Power220V 3 Phase Power
Amperage Requirements20 Amp30 Amp35 Amp29 Amp

Siemens Control

AutoMate and Siemens 808D
Small CNC Control Leadership
Detroit Machine Tools - AutoMate is leading the way in the development and support of the Siemens 808D CNC control matched with small industrial machine tools.
DMT has technicians and CNC programmers who are trained and proficient in operating the 808D control. DMT offers training classes and individualized training for AutoMate owners and Siemens 808D operators.
Experienced technicians are available to answer questions and offer technical support for your AutoMate machine with Siemens 808D control.
You can purchase an AutoMate CNC lathe or mill with confidence - knowing you will have the support of an organization with relevant depth and experience. DMT technicians are knowledgeable and commited to your machining success.
SINUMERIK 808D - INTRODUCTION
Features and Facts - Advantages of Siemens 808D
DOWNLOADABLE OFFLINE SIEMENS 808D SIMULATOR
Familiarize yourself with the 808D control.
Proof out existing part files.
Create programs away from the machine.
SIEMENS 808D - TRAINING CLASSES
Training Classes in Ann Arbor, MI


Siemens Webinars
SIEMENS 808D - TRAINING MANUALS
The Sinumerik 808D Programming and Operations Manual
3 YEAR WARRANTY - on the SINUMERIK 808D

AutoDesk Fusion 360 and AutoMate CNC

AutoDesk Fusion 360 and AutoMate CNC

Autodesk Fusion 360 provides the CAD/CAM program that best fits the AutoMate CNC line of CNC lathes and milling machines. And, Fusion 360 is the CAD/CAM program that best fits our customer requirements.

Fusion 360 is a cloud-based 3D CAD, CAM, and CAE platform for product development. It combines industrial and mechanical design, simulation, collaboration, and machining in a single package.

AutoMate CNC has custom post processors for Fusion 360 - From concept to parts production, machining program file management has never been easier!

Fusion 360 - Design

Free Form Sculpting

Within Fusion’s sculpting environment you have the ability to start with, and modify predefined primitive shapes right alongside mechanical workflow.

Apply symmetrical strategies and manipulate edges/faces to transform primitive designs into organic shapes that are not only eye pleasing but meet technical parameters as well.

Parametric Modeling

Fusion 360 gives designers, engineers, and machinists the ability to create designs that meet manufacturing criteria involving precise tolerances. This type of modeling lends itself well to part families that require slight variations to a specific feature, or designs that require iterations on a regular basis.

Parametric modeling is a structured process where users create designs/assemblies with constrained sketch(s). Edits are typically indirect and can be accessed through the history tree, or chain. Parts and assemblies have fully defined parent/child relationships.

Key Benefits of Parametric Modeling:

  • The model design is automatically updated as changes/iterations are made
  • It is easier to predict how models/assemblies will interact with parameters as changes are made within the data tree
  • Easy to define and create families of parts
  • Manufacturing processes are streamlined - resulting in decreased production time

Solid Modeling - Direct Modeling

Solid modeling is a more flexible design process that allows the part geometry itself to be the master in determining design process and flow. There are times, most often in the concept phase of a part design, when a designer/machinist does not want a fully defined part drawing. Direct modeling does not rely on a linear “parent/child” relationship. Editing to the design model is accomplished within the part geometry itself. Not on the part’s design history chain.

Key Benefits of Direct Modeling:

  • 3D designs are quickly created
  • Edits are quick with geometry changes directly on the model
  • Very flexible within the design stage
  • Short learning curve
  • Smaller file size

Libraries

Common hardware and CAD files can be directly imported into the modeling environment. With a few clicks of the mouse products from popular vendors can be added. Design details, like part number, quantity, and CAD data are automatically populated.

Fusion 360 - Design

Use Fusion 360 to create toolpaths for existing solid models, or models created directly within Fusion. Take advantage of the rapid prototyping environment with the built in 3D printing utility.

Post Processors: AutoMate CNC has already done the hard work - custom post processors for Fusion 360 are built-in. Having an intuitive, easy-to-use CAD/CAM program like Fusion 360 is a great help to the time-conscious machinist/programmer. With some practice and experience you will realize how much Fusion 360 can simplify your machine programming journey - from concept, to print, to finished part.

Good Match: Fusion 360 is a great match for AutoMate CNC machine tools. One strength of Fusion 360 is that it can take advantage of AutoMate CNC’s high spindle speed, AND, the machine’s high rapid feed rates, and cutting feed rates.

Efficient and Accurate Operations: Fusion 360 offers options for both 2D and 3D adaptive tool paths. These toolpath strategies generally have a higher material removal rate. They also assure longer tool life. Using Fusion 360 CAM to develop efficient machining programs offers the smoothest operation of your machine - improving efficiency and accuracy. AND, assuring easier operation and longer machine life.

FL300-II - Flat Bed CNC Turning Center - FAQ

What is unique about the FL300-II Gang Tool CNC lathe?

There are four unique features of the FL300-II that stand out: 1) The addition of a high precision 8-Tool Turret to the FL300. 2) The extended length table is extra long, compared to similar sized flatbed gang tool lathes. The extra table length and 14” cross feed travel allows for set-ups with large numbers of tools. 3) High quality electrical components, ball screws and linear guides allow for high rapid feed rates – resulting in higher speed tool changes and program transitions. 4) The FL300 is reasonably priced, even with the addition of the turret. 

Why would I choose this lathe over one of the other turret lathes?

Large tooling capacity and programming options. The extra long. flat bed design, combined with the high quality turret provide a lot of capacity - for a very reasonable price. This is why the factory production of the FL300 is higher than any of the other CNC lathes.

Is the FL300-II a production quality CNC lathe?

Even though it has a small footprint, the FL300 weighs over 3500 lbs. and has tolerances that match production machines. It has top quality components and will hold up well under the high demands of production turning applications.

Will the lathe hold up? Is it good quality?

In addition to the FL300’s heavy vibration-damping foundation, this lathe features high quality construction and top quality components. As mentioned, the lathe features a Siemens control, and heavy duty spindle bearings. It also uses Schneider electrical components and PMI ball screws.

That’s how we are confidently able to offer an 18 month warranty on the machine and 3 years on the Siemens control.

How is the accuracy? Will it hold up?

This machine is designed to maintain repeatability at .0002”. This lathe is also built on a heavy machine base/lathe bed casting design. This assures ultimate rigidity and vibration damping – Out of the box, and for the long-term life of the machine.

What are the standard features? What are the options?

The FL300-II Turret Lathe standard specifications include:

  • 8-Station Turret
  • Extended X axis travel with gang plate
  • 4 HP Spindle Motor
  • Pneumatic Collet Chuck
  • Tooling Package
  • 3000 RPM Spindle

Optional upgrades include:

  • Hydraulic Collet Chuck
  • 5000 RPM Spindle.

Can I set this up myself? Do I need a rigger?

You should carefully and realistically consider your capabiliites before deciding to handle the moving of this machine on your own.  The first consideration of whether or not you should do this yourself is if you have a forklift that has sufficient fork length, size and load capacity.  Secondly, do you have a safety minded and well-trained operator. 

You should seriously consider renting a forklift and driver, but if you have the proper equipment and people in-house, you should be able to safely remove the lathe from the truck and place it at its intended operating location.

Many customers rent fork lifts and/or operaters to perform the task.  Larger organizations and educational institutions often contract with a rigger or millright to handle machine set-up.  We have experience with and are comfortable working with rigger companies.  We can offer a recommendation for a company in your area.

Basic instructions for setting up the lathe are included in the operations manual. Of course, you can always call us with questions you may have.

What’s the warranty? How does it work?

AutoMate CNC lathes have an 18 month parts replacement warranty. AutoMate CNC will send you the proper replacements parts for parts that prove to be defective.

The Siemens 808D control has a three year “in-field” warranty that is supported by Siemens USA.

How about service, can I do it myself? What if I need technical support?

The expectation is that customers who purchase a CNC machine tool will have the adequate mechanical and electrical know-how to handle service questions that arise. On these occasions, you can call and talk to an AutoMate CNC technician with questions you have.

On occasion, a CNC machine buyer does not have the knowledge to set-up a machine or diagnose a technical issue.  Even in this case, AutoMate CNC will offer technical support through telephone, on-line video conferencing or by email.  If a machine owner is still not able to handle the diagnostics of the machine we can make recommendations for local machine tool technicians who can visit the customer location - at the customer's expense.  We may already know of a technician in your area that we have worked with previously.

This lathe uses three phase power. Why? Is there an advantage?

The simple answer is that larger horse power machines operate more efficiently when using three phase power.

The advantage of three phase power is that your machines will last longer and operate with higher energy efficiency. Three phase power does not use more electricity than machines using single phase power. This also applies when using a phase converter – The average 10 HP phase converter runs on around 7 cents per hour of electricity.

I don’t have three phase power in my shop, what am I going to do?

The best solution is to use a rotary phase converter, which plugs into a standard 220V plug and converts power from the wall into the three phase power used by the machine.

If you do not have a phase converter yourself, you can purchase a high quality American made phase converter from us for a discounted price.

This is a simple plug and perform solution for the small shop operator. Watch this video to learn more about setting up and using a phase converter:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJjCQqtEdFU

This video clip shows the Marton Brothers using phase converters to set up their new machine shop.

Siemens 808D CNC Control

The Siemens 808D is a real deal industrial control?

The Siemens 808D is a fully functional, industrial grade CNC control system that uses software based on the same software used in Siemens larger industrial control systems. The difference is that the 808D is designed to be used on smaller machines.

Machine tools with real production capabilities, like AutoMate CNC machines, are best matched with a control system that has the power and functionality to do real production work, just like the Siemens 808D.  Siemens 808D controls and AutoMate CNC machines make a great match.

All AutoMate CNC machines come standard with the Siemens 808D Basic control, which can be upgraded upon request. Other control options include the Siemens 808D Advanced and Siemens 828D controls. Those that prefer using a Fanuc system can order any of our lathes or mills with a Fanuc Oi Mate TD CNC Control.

It says AutoMate CNC machines have servos. Is that true, even at this low price?

Yes, all AutoMate CNC lathes and mills use servo motors and drives on all axes. The biggest advantage of servo drives over steppers is the degree of accuracy and repeatability that can be accomplished. 

Other advantages of servos include: Rapid acceleration and higher speeds   2)  High torque throughout the speed range 3) High efficiency  4)  Stay cool during long operations  5) Operate at very low noise levels – even at high speeds. Vibration free operation is one important reason for this.

PLUS, it has a closed loop control system?

Yes, this CNC control is a closed loop system. A servo-driven closed loop system is significantly more accurate than steppers. A closed loop system sends commands from the control out to the machine and then completes the communication process by sending data back that updates the control as to where the machining process is at any given time.

The system directly monitors motor position and velocity in real time. The system then automatically makes corrections to assure correct tool positioning. This assures high accuracy and maximum parts quality. PLUS, it assures smoother finishes and a reduced reject rate.

Does the control have conversational programming?

Yes, you can program standing at the control panel using fill-in-the-blank style forms. Each form has a graphic demonstration of the machining process you are programming. The control interface features include standard programming patterns like bolt hole circles, linear rays, full-contour definition, peck drilling, tapping, etc.

Do AutoMate CNC lathes and mills have a servo driven spindle? What’s the advantage?

Yes, all AutoMate CNC machines have a servo driven spindle, similar to the type of spindle drive motors used on larger CNC machine tools. A servo driven spindle provides much better torque, and assures constant torque throughout the speed range, even at low RPM.

Servo motors with an encoder are able to continually identify the exact radial location of the spindle shaft. This makes the servo driven spindle capable of rigid tapping, a function that most machine operators will eventually find a need for. The servo also allows for spindle positioning – an important consideration when using live tooling.

So, this lathe can rigid tap?

Yes, AutoMate CNC lathes and mills can be easily programmed to do rigid tapping operations.

Does the Siemens 808D handle larger programs well?

Siemens has a unique function that allows for the streaming of large program files direct from a USB. Machining large program files are no longer a concern - the Siemens 808D Control will machine large files.  Other CNC systems lack this robust level of functionality.

Will this CNC Control work with my CAD-CAM system?

Yes, the Siemens 808D control has post processors for all CAD-CAM systems. If you are having a problem we will work with Siemens USA to resolve the issue.

What about training?

When you purchase an AutoMate CNC lathe or mill you receive FREE tuition (Value $299) to attend a day long basic programming and machine set-up class that we hold at our location in Ann Arbor, MI. Siemens USA also has many training webinars on their website.

I noticed that Siemens has a simulator for the 808C control. Is this helpful?

Yes, definitely. You should take the time to download the FREE Siemens 808D simulator on your computer. You can spend time getting to know the NEW Siemens control system logic. With some experience you will you see the Siemens 808D control is as powerful and easy to use as other industrial CNC control systems on the market. PLUS, the conversational programming functions are just as easy to use as other CNC controls.  In most cases, the Siemens 808D is easier to use.

Many customers continue to use the simulator, even after their machine is set-up and making parts.  The owner uses the Siemens simulator, along with Fusion 360 CAD-CAM to develop machining programs while at their computer, rather than at the control panel. Once programs have been written and tested they can be easily transferred to the machine control via USB drive.

Machine Shipping

Machine Shipping Information

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- Basic Shipping Info -

AutoMate CNC machines are large. bulky and can weigh up to 5000 lbs. The potential for damage to a machine or injury to shipping personnel or bystanders is significant. These machines require special attention throughout the transportation process.

Four Methods of CNC Machine Shipping Include:

1) Basic Truck Freight Delivery - Foam Protected and Wrapped Machine
2) Basic Truck Freight Delivery – Wooden Crate Protected Machine
3) Advanced Truck Freight Delivery – Separated Divider w/ Non-Stop Delivery
4) Flat Bed Truck Delivery – Direct delivery of protected and tarped machine

**All Trucks Used by AutoMate CNC to Deliver CNC Machines are Equipped with Air Ride Suspension Systems. We want to be sure your machine has as smooth a ride as possible.

**AutoMate CNC Recommended Machine Delivery Method: Our recommendation is that each customer use the Advanced Truck Freight Delivery – Separated Divider w/ Non-Stop Delivery for shipping of machines they purchase. This method is a little more expensive, but we can, and will provide assurance that the CNC machine will be delivered safely and without damage.

Customers who decide to use Basic Truck Freight Delivery can expect to receive their machine safely, but it requires more vigilance and responsibility on the part of the customer who is receiving the machine.

Determining Machine Weight and Dimensions:

Determining crated machine weight and dimensions is complicated. A number of factors go into this equation. Please allow us to help you determine the machine and shipping combination that work best for you. To get started, fill out the quote form on the website, and we’ll get back to you with a machine and shipping quote. Or, call us at 800.476.4849 – an Automate CNC technician would be happy to answer your questions.

- Fork Lift Requirements -

Fork Length:

In our warehouse operations we use forklifts with 6000 lb. lift capacity and 6’ forks. Six foot forks can be used safely with all of the AutoMate CNC Lathes and Mills, except the FTL400 Lathe. We have a set of extension we add to the 6’ forks for this lathe.

Max Lift Capacity:

The first step is to determine the weight of the crated CNC machine you are receiving from the machine specifications page. Next, check the stated lift capacity of the fork truck you intend to use. The lifting capacity of this machine must be greater than the weight of the machine you are purchasing. 

Machine Delivery Options:

You may prefer to use professional shippers and riggers to receive and set up your machine. Many larger organizations and government agencies are required to use a trained and registered machine tool rigger/mill wright.

Other Options:

If you do not have experience handling this size and type of machine we welcome a discussion about delivery options with you. Call us at 1-800-476-4849 and speak with one of our representatives to discuss the logistical solution best suited for you.

- International Shipping -

Shipping to Canada

We use a variety of transport companies for Canadian shipments. We do this to ensure you the best possible rates when going across the border. There are two different options you can consider for handling customs paperwork, duties and taxes going into Canada.

The first option is to act as your own servicing agent. We will sell you the machine, and contacting a broker and handling customs duties, taxes and fees is up to you.

The second option includes an all-inclusive package where we take care of everything for you. Your job will be to prepare to receive the machine when delivered.

Shipping to Other International Locations

For international shipments of AutoMate CNC lathes and mills we use Mid-America Overseas as our broker. We will quote and ship to the port nearest you. Forwarding of the machine from the port to your door will be your responsibility. Please provide valid contact information and a ship-to address when requesting a quote for shipment to a location outside the US and Canada.


Four Methods of Machine Delivery - Options

1. Basic Truck Freight Delivery – Foam Protected and Wrapped Machine

In general, AutoMate CNC Lathe and Mills are small enough to fit into standard sized freight trucks. Also, the weight of most machines is less than the maximum 5000 weight of an individual delivered item, as stated by most truck freight companies.

We have delivered tens of thousands of machine tools by truck freight through the years. So we know it can be done safely. We also know that the size and weight of these CNC machines brings additional risk of damage to package and/or person.

Loading Dock or Direct From Truck: The first consideration for Truck Freight delivery is availability of dock. The easiest way to unload a CNC machine direct from a common freight truck by using a loading dock with adjustable dock plate.

If you do not have a loading dock you can still receive a machine via truck freight delivery. In this case you must arrange with the AutoMate CNC technician to have the machine placed on the back of the truck for delivery. A forklift can drive up to the truck on the ground and lift the machine out of the back of the truck.

Fork Truck Requirements: (See Details Above).

If you're unsure of your personnel or fork lift's capabilities, please contact a local rigger for assistance.

Receiving the Machine: Prior to receiving your machine you will receive an email from with us with instructions and pictures of the machine just before it is loaded on the truck to leave our warehouse.

When the machine arrives you should compare these emailed pictures to the look of the machine packaging when it arrives. You must note any damage to the lathe or mill on the bill of lading before the trucker leaves in order to be able to hold the trucking company liable for damage before it arrives at your location.

It is similar to doing a walk around of a rental car before you sign to accept it. You must note any damage to the machine on the truck company’s bill of lading before signing for acceptance. It will be assumed that any damage that is noted to the machine at a later date will have happened after the machine arrived at your location.

2. Basic Truck Freight Delivery – Wooden Crate Protected Machine

There is a way to deliver a CNC machine by truck freight that entails less risk. A second option that carries greater assurance of safe delivery is to build a wooden cross-member crate around the machine before it ships. We charge $300-500 to build a crate around the CNC machine and pallet.

The terms of delivery for a machine with crate are the same as for a CNC machine that is foamed and wrapped. Be sure to read the section just above, to learn about shipping a CNC machine by Truck Frieght.

Receiving a CNC Lathe with Wooden Crate: The procedure for receiving a machine with crate is the same as if you had shipped the machine without a crate.

You will receive pictures of your machine as it sits in its crate on the delivery dock before leaving our location. You should compare the machine you receive with the pictures. It’s a good idea to take pictures of the machine as you receive it.

Any damage to the machine or crate must be noted on the trucker’s bill of lading before he leaves your location. It is assumed that any damage to the machine noticed after the machine is delivered to your location will have occurred after the machine was delivered.

3. Advanced Truck Freight Delivery – Separated Divider w/ Non-Stop Delivery

To assure safe delivery of your CNC machine, while still relying on standard Truck Freight Delivery, the best way to have your machine delivered is with “Separated Divider”. This shipping method is more expensive, but we can provide the assurance that your machine will arrive without damage.

Process of Shipping with Separated Divider: The actual process of preparing and shipping a CNC machine by this method is straight forward. We will negotiate a delivery quote from our shipping Company, ESTES TRUCKING for your machine delivery. Should you accept this delivery method we will prepare the machine for shipment with standard foam and plastic wrap protection.

Delivery of Separated Divider Shipment: When the machine is loaded on the truck at our location it will be placed in the front of the trailer, just behind the cab. After strapping the machine down the driver will place a set of metal bars – the secure divider system – between the two walls of the trailer.

No other freight will be able to make contact with your machine. Your machine will not be moved to another truck before it arrives at your location. It will be a direct shipment from our location to yours. It’s a bit expensive, but you can rest assured your machine will arrive safe and ready to go to work.

4. Flat Bed Delivery

Flat bed delivery makes the most sense when you don’t have a truck loading dock. Many of our customers in rural locations opt for delivery by flatbed truck.

Fork Lift and Unloading Area: The rules for having an adequate fork lift stated above in the Truck Freight Delivery apply for flatbed truck also. Be sure to read the section about fork truck requirements.

Fork Truck Rental: It is common for customers who don’t have a forklift to arrange for rental of a forklift on the day the machine will be delivered. Let us know if you need assistance in renting a forklift and driver, if you don’t have experience.

To receive a delivery by flatbed truck your location must be accessible by the truck and trailer tandem. The driver must have a path to drive through or turn around in while at your location. There must also be room for the fork truck to move in from the side of the trailer to lift and remove the machine tool.

One other note of caution: The ground must be hard enough to handle the weight of fork truck and machine. Soft dirt or gravel are not an adequate foundation for moving a machine tool and delivery vehicle.

Receiving/Inspection: The CNC machine will be covered by a tarp while it is traveling. The machine is well protected using this type of delivery, so you should not expect to have damage to your machine.

However, it is still the responsibility of the person receiving the machine to fully and carefully inspect the machine for damage. Any damage should be noted on the bill of lading before accepting the machine as being delivered.

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